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Interference Corrections in CalcImage
« on: April 11, 2016, 02:23:27 PM »
I wanted to show the interference corrections in CalcImage so I picked an Fe and FeCu sulfide and so tried to measure Mo in it. As you know, there is a large interference of S ka on Mo La.   With a quant analysis of the two minerals we get (15 keV, 100nA, 40 seconds):

Un    5 Reed sulfide, Results in Elemental Weight Percents

ELEM:       Fe       S      Cu      Mo      Zn      Ag      Ca   SUM 
   132  45.536  53.359    .039   1.862    .019    .001    .002 100.817
   133  45.839  53.387    .082   1.867    .021    .007    .007 101.210
   134  45.604  53.253    .091   1.887    .022    .018    .007 100.881
   135  45.501  53.360    .034   1.850    .005   -.003    .008 100.754
   136  45.604  53.277    .055   1.868    .028    .000   -.019 100.814

AVER:   45.617  53.327    .060   1.867    .019    .004    .001 100.895
SDEV:     .132    .059    .025    .013    .009    .008    .011    .182

Un    6 Reed sulfide (CuFe), Results in Elemental Weight Percents
 
ELEM:       Fe       S      Cu      Mo      Zn      Ag      Ca   SUM 
   137  29.300  34.383  33.779   1.231    .036    .048    .003  98.779
   138  29.184  34.471  33.914   1.244    .004    .068   -.025  98.861
   139  29.176  34.335  33.706   1.241    .030    .073    .002  98.563
   140  29.306  34.437  33.654   1.230    .029    .051    .015  98.722
   141  29.327  34.501  33.770   1.242    .021    .063   -.005  98.919

AVER:   29.259  34.425  33.764   1.238    .024    .061   -.002  98.769
SDEV:     .073    .067    .098    .007    .012    .011    .015    .137


And here are the two minerals again, but this time *with* the interference correction of S on Mo (and also Cu on Zn though it is very small):

Un    5 Reed sulfide, Results in Elemental Weight Percents
 
ELEM:       Fe       S      Cu      Mo      Zn      Ag      Ca
BGDS:      LIN     LIN     LIN     LIN     EXP     LIN     LIN
TIME:    40.00   80.00   40.00   40.00   80.00   40.00   40.00
BEAM:    99.98   99.98   99.98   99.98   99.98   99.98   99.98

ELEM:       Fe       S      Cu      Mo      Zn      Ag      Ca   SUM 
   132  45.661  53.479    .039   -.032    .019    .001    .002  99.169
   133  45.964  53.507    .083   -.027    .021    .007    .007  99.561
   134  45.729  53.373    .091   -.002    .022    .017    .007  99.237
   135  45.626  53.480    .034   -.042    .005   -.003    .008  99.107
   136  45.728  53.397    .056   -.020    .028    .000   -.019  99.170

AVER:   45.742  53.447    .061   -.025    .019    .004    .001  99.249
SDEV:     .132    .059    .026    .015    .009    .008    .011    .181

Un    6 Reed sulfide (CuFe), Results in Elemental Weight Percents
 
ELEM:       Fe       S      Cu      Mo      Zn      Ag      Ca
BGDS:      LIN     LIN     LIN     LIN     EXP     LIN     LIN
TIME:    40.00   80.00   40.00   40.00   80.00   40.00   40.00
BEAM:   100.02  100.02  100.02  100.02  100.02  100.02  100.02

ELEM:       Fe       S      Cu      Mo      Zn      Ag      Ca   SUM 
   137  29.318  34.451  33.847    .012    .020    .048    .003  97.699
   138  29.202  34.539  33.983    .023   -.013    .068   -.025  97.778
   139  29.194  34.404  33.774    .025    .013    .073    .002  97.485
   140  29.325  34.506  33.722    .010    .013    .051    .015  97.642
   141  29.346  34.570  33.838    .020    .004    .063   -.005  97.837

AVER:   29.277  34.494  33.833    .018    .007    .061   -.002  97.688
SDEV:     .073    .067    .098    .007    .013    .011    .015    .136

I don't like that the interference corrected Mo value on the FeS2 is -0.025 (negative 250 PPM), but it is within less than 2 standard deviations of zero so maybe it's just bad luck... anyway we'll never see that in the x-ray maps.

Still I don't like it and will need to think about what the problem might be...  the run was very stable. Standards were automatically run before the unknowns, after the unknowns (and before the x-ray maps) and again, after the x-ray maps as seen here:

Drift array standard intensities (cps/30nA) (background corrected):
ELMXRY:    fe ka    s ka   cu ka   mo la   zn ka   ag la   ca ka
MOTCRY:  5   LIF 4   PET 5   LIF 2  LPET 3  LLIF 2  LPET 1   PET
STDASS:      730     730     529     542     530     547     358
STDVIR:        0       0       0       0       0       0       0
          2824.4  3845.3  4795.7  8575.2 14586.0  8639.9  1056.7
          2822.9  3837.4  4793.2  8587.0 14596.7  8629.6  1059.3
          2826.8  3845.7  4792.8  8591.5 14554.8  8643.7  1057.0

I suspect because the interference standard for S on Mo (my standard FeS2), was run at 30 nA, but the unknown was run at 100 nA, there could be an effect from sample damage.

More unfortunately, I decided to run a beam scan rather than a stage scan, and even at 2900x, there is significant Bragg defocussing in the major elements. Also, I forgot and ran the maps at 30nA- the same as my standards, though I meant to run the maps at 100 nA.  So I'll have to try again next weekend.

In the meantime here are the Mo and S maps *without* an interference correction:



Note the large Bragg defocussing on the sulfur map.  This causes a problem with the quantitative interference correction for Mo, though it does try hard as seen here in the interference corrected maps:



The interference corrected Mo concentrations are quite close to zero (yellow-green) for much of the pyrite and Cu-Pyrite grains, except in the lower left corner where most of the Bragg defocusing occurs.  I'll try again with a stage scan next weekend at 100nA.    :D
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Re: Interference Corrections in CalcImage
« Reply #1 on: April 11, 2016, 03:01:01 PM »
Here's an interesting aspect to the quantification of maps with Bragg defocussing. 

In the *total* map, the Bragg defocussing from the various spectrometers almost, kinda averages out and forms a high spot of 100% or so, in the middle of the map.



Exactly as one might expect!
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Re: Interference Corrections in CalcImage
« Reply #2 on: April 11, 2016, 03:29:02 PM »
I made an ImageJ stack of the Zn Ka corrected and uncorrected for the Cu Ka/Kb interference and it is barely visible as seen here in the attachment below. Click the attachment to see the animation.

As expected, the FeCu sulfide shows more Zn from the Cu interference than the Fe sulfide. When I run again at 100 nA the difference in the interference correction should be more visible.
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Re: Interference Corrections in CalcImage
« Reply #3 on: April 16, 2016, 08:17:13 AM »
The stage scan is running now... hopefully I will have interference corrected quant map results posted here early next week.  :)

In the meantime, please note that this quantitative spectral interference correction is a quick and easy, two or three mouse click operation, once the data is acquired as seen here:



Simply click the interfering element (S), the standard used for the S Ka interference correction (pyrite) and OK.  The Calculate Interferences button is an optional mouse click, which is used only to see if the suspected interference is nominally possible.
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Re: Interference Corrections in CalcImage
« Reply #4 on: April 17, 2016, 08:02:41 AM »
OK, the stage scan finished and here are the results. Again standards (FeS2 for sulfur, diopside for Ca, pure metals for the other elements), were run at 15 keV, 30 nA and the stage scan at 15 keV, 100nA, 1 um pixels. All data was automatically corrected for deadtime, beam drift, standard drift, background, and matrix corrected.

First without any interference correction:



Without an interference correction the pyrite shows roughly 1.8 wt% Mo and the Cu-pyrite shows roughly 1.2 wt% Mo. Now with the quant interference correction as described in the above post:



We are now seeing almost no Mo in either phase, however, to the eye, there does appear to be some small non-zero amount of Mo in the Cu pyrite phase on the right.  Let's do a polygon extraction using CalcImage, first the Fe pyrite phase:



We get 0 +/- 0.09 wt.% Mo. Can't do much better than that if the concentration is zero! In the Cu pyrite we get this:



The Cu pyrite phase shows 0.04 +/- 0.08 which is statistically zero, but the eye confirms that there does appear to be some very small concentration of Mo- which is confirmed by the point analyses in the above posts which gave ~200 PPM Mo in the Cu pyrite phase.
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Re: Interference Corrections in CalcImage
« Reply #5 on: April 17, 2016, 08:23:58 AM »
Attached below (you'll need to log in to see them) are the quant and detection limit maps for Mo. 

Note that although the 0.04 +/- 0.08 Mo wt. % in the polygon extraction of the Cu pyrite phase is below the Mo 3 sigma detection limit of 700 to 800 PPM, the eye picks up the subtle difference in the Mo quant map attached below:
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Re: Interference Corrections in CalcImage
« Reply #6 on: August 16, 2016, 10:17:27 AM »
To see fine details in the quantitative x-ray map interference correction I performed a cross section on the Mo quant pixel data using the CalcImage slice menu as seen here:

http://probesoftware.com/smf/index.php?topic=41.msg541#msg541

and I obtained this output *without* an interference correction of sulfur on Mo La:



and this output *with* an interference correction for sulfur on Mo La:



The pyrite (high sulfur) phase is on the left, the CuFe (lower sulfur) is on the right. The neat thing is, as described by Ben Buse here:

http://probesoftware.com/smf/index.php?topic=777.msg4823#msg4823

Is that the eye can (sort of) detect a (statistically insignificant) difference in the Mo content in the interference corrected map for the two phases even though the cross section plot does not (seemingly) show it!

How cool is that?    8)

By the way, in a previous set of point analyses (15 keV, 100 nA, 5 um, 40 sec on peak and 40 sec off peak, average of 5 points), as seen in the first post above, I got -0.025 +/- 0.015 Mo in the Fe sulfide phase (that is zero within 2 std devs), and in the CuFe sulfide I got 0.018 (180 PPM) +/- 0.007 (70 PPM) of Mo. 

All analyses performed *without* a blank correction.
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Re: Interference Corrections in CalcImage
« Reply #7 on: August 17, 2016, 12:48:05 AM »
This is pretty cool.  I wonder if averaging out over a line that is more than one pixel wide would show what the eye can see.  I use the interference correction frequently for Ba and Ce, without it the maps certainly look very different   ;D

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Re: Interference Corrections in CalcImage
« Reply #8 on: August 17, 2016, 07:31:52 AM »
This is pretty cool.  I wonder if averaging out over a line that is more than one pixel wide would show what the eye can see.  I use the interference correction frequently for Ba and Ce, without it the maps certainly look very different   ;D

Hi Gareth,
Yes, that is possible.  I haven't tried that in Surfer yet.  Can the "boundary" line in Surfer be specified to be more than one pixel wide?
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Re: Interference Corrections in CalcImage
« Reply #9 on: August 17, 2016, 12:31:26 PM »
Hello All,

Drew from Golden Software here. The profile tool and the Grid | Slice command will only slice the grids by one node; you cannot make this wider. I have added a request to our feature request database to have control over the profile slice where you would be able to specify a wider path than 1 grid node.

On a side note and technically speaking, the profile tool calculates the profile based on the grid nodes that the transect crosses and not pixels or grid cells. This might seem like the same thing, but there is actually a difference on where the value of the grids is located. In a Surfer grid, the values are located on the gird nodes and not the cell centroid as with a raster dataset. This is a good thing to conceptualize when working with both types of files.

I hope this helps!
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Re: Interference Corrections in CalcImage
« Reply #10 on: August 24, 2016, 03:17:18 AM »
I have added to this post one of the key uses of interfernce correction for us.  I have only included the Ce map as it clearly shows the difference.  Before correction we can see a phase, which is rich in Ba, but appears to contain around 20 wt%Ce. After correction you can clearly see that there is no Ce in this region.

I have also seen the classic interference of Ti on V doing point analysis on a TiAl6V4 alloy

 
AlTiVTotal
Before
6.6
90.3
10.4
107.2
After
6.5
90.4
4
100.9

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Re: Interference Corrections in CalcImage
« Reply #11 on: August 24, 2016, 12:52:21 PM »
I have also seen the classic interference of Ti on V doing point analysis on a TiAl6V4 alloy

 
AlTiVTotal
Before
6.6
90.3
10.4
107.2
After
6.5
90.4
4
100.9

Very cool interference correction map!

On the TiAlV alloy you can also have a "cascade" interference when analyzing trace Cr in this matrix. That is Ti (Kb) interferes with V, and V (Kb) interferes with Cr!  Nasty, but fortunately PFE handles this type of interference automatically.  This is described on page 26 of my now ancient interference correction paper attached below. See table 1, NIST standard SRM 654b.
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