You have an implementation within Probe for EPMA for performing EDS analysis if you are using a Bruker EDS system. For my work I want to use DTSA and the specific application of linear least squares fitting that it uses. It has been shown to be very robust against a lot of problems that affect EDS and the residual spectra is a very help tool as well. More important for most of your users is that not everyone has a bruker/esprit system. DTSA and PFE is a way for people to use EDS for majors/minors and WDS for trace who don’t specifically have a bruker/esprit system on their microprobe.
So here are my requests:
1. I would appreciate a way to import compositions for analysis on a line-by-line basis. You currently have a nice feature in your “specified element concentrations” window that allows you to read compositions in from a text file for a given sample number. But that composition applies to the whole sample. I have been using PFE to record transects across zoned minerals. I am using it to record my EDS and I would like to use WDS for trace Ni and Co. Since I’m offloading all the other elements onto EDS I can give each element its own spectrometer (or more than one for some elements) and count away throughout the whole EDS acquisition time. But since the composition changes across the sample I can’t really use this correctly. So I would appreciate a way to read in compositions for each line of an analysis or set of analyses from a text file.
Hi Michael,
I was wondering why you wanted to use DTSA, but now I see you want to utilize the linear least squares method for extracting the net intensities that is apparently only available in DTSA-2 (though Thermo NSS might utilize this method I think). I will just first note that the integration of PFE with EDS, is not only with Bruker Esprit, but PFE also supports Thermo NSS (now Path Finder), and soon the JEOL EDS will be integrated seamlessly with PFE also, as soon as JEOL Japan gets me their final EDS API.
It's really too bad you can't utilize Bruker for the net intensity extraction and have to use DTSA manually. One advantage of not using linear least squares is that, with the Bruker interface at least, they return not only the net intensities, but also the background intensities after peak stripping, so one can also calculate EDS element detection limits as described here:
http://probesoftware.com/smf/index.php?topic=822.msg5265#msg5265Your suggestion of specifying the EDS elements from DTSA as fixed element compositions in PFE with the WDS elements is a good idea, but the specified element arrays can only be a single fixed composition per sample (or elements (or formulas), by difference, oxygen stoichiometry or stoichiometry to an arbitrary element). So currently the only way this will work is if you use a single point for each sample in PFE. Then you can use the text file loading method for the specified elements and you are all set.
But honestly, the best method for your purposes would be:
1. Get Bruker to implement the linear least squares method, or
2. Get Nicholas to implement a net intensity processing API in DTSA-2.
On this last point, because PFE can utilize one EDS API for spectrum acquisition and a separate interface for EDS spectrum processing, if Nicholas did implement an EDS spectrum processing API in DTSA-2 you would be all good to go in that you could acquire spectra in PFE using Bruker for each analysis point, then extract the net intensities for the EDS elements using DTSA. I've attached a generic EDS API pdf below that is the one utilized by Bruker, Thermo (and soon JEOL) for EDS integration with PFE. You should see if he can produce a compatible EDS API for spectrum processing. The only function that would need to be implemented at this point is the EDSGetNetIntensities (and the EDSInit and EDSClose) function.
You will note that this API also includes an interface for processing EDS spectrum images for synchronized EDS and WDS map quantification. I am working with Thermo, Bruker and JEOL on this now. See here for more details:
http://probesoftware.com/smf/index.php?topic=400.msg3702#msg3702Another advantage of using DTSA to extract the net intensities directly in PFE (as opposed to just the fixed concentrations) is that you would then be using a self consistent matrix correction for all the elements in the measurement (both WDS and EDS).
2. I would appreciate a way to use these entered composition values in your overlap correction algorithm. I already use PFE to record my standards. You need to know the concentration of the interfering element which I am providing from DTSA (although this could come from some other technique entirely like mass-spec). But currently you only allow this to be used if the concentrations come from the Bruker EDS integration. Allowing the correction based on entered composition would open this feature up to people with other detectors and/or people who want to use DTSA or some other software.
Sorry, but this won't work.
The quantitative spectral interference correction in PFE works for elements from WDS by WDS, WDS by EDS, EDS by WDS and EDS by EDS, but if you check my interference correction paper here:
http://epmalab.uoregon.edu/publ/Improved%20Interference%20(Micro.%20Anal,%201993).pdfyou will see that the quantitative interference correction method requires that both the interfering *and* the interfered elements be measured together. Why? Because the spectral interference correction needs to iterate the matrix correction as the composition changes in the matrix due to the interference correction itself.
Obviously for small interference corrections where the matrix doesn't change much, this is not a big issue. But for large interference corrections, and also spectral interference corrections of the "cascade" type, e.g., Al-Ti-V-Cr alloys where Ti -> V Ka and V -> Cr Ka. In addition, we also need to iterate "self" interferences such as Mo La <-> S Ka, As Ka <-> Pb La, etc. The cool thing about an iterated spectral interference correction is that the element order doesn't matter!
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The good news is that if you can get Bruker to implement a linear least squares method, or if you can get Nicholas to implement an API to obtain the EDS net intensities (and ideally the background intensities as well for detection limits calculations), you will have Bruker for EDS acquisition and DTSA for EDS spectrum processing automatically in PFE!
Please let me know if I haven't explained anything clearly enough. It's complicated!
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john